Posts by RayoFlight2014

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I realize that this is kind of personal, but

by stillin in

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what does being a "spiritual person" mean to you?

the religion would have had us to believe that our place in the organization is definitive of that.

or how often we pray.

RayoFlight2014

The term "spirit" or "spiritual" comes from a latin word meaning "to breath".

Religion's, and especially watchtower's hijacking that word, makes me repulsed by the word "spiritual".

Being spiritual can come from an event or experience that changes the chemistry of the brain that gives a person a hightened awareness or consciousness.

This can be triggered by religious, traumatic, euphoric and drug induced experiences.

I'm off to work for now, but if you're interested I'll relate my own personal, trauma induced "spiritual" experience later on this afternoon.

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False oath in Russia

by neat blue dog in

i'll be the first to say that the russian government is pretty terrible and overreaching in its', power but that's not what this is about.

in a recent hearing, a witness for the jws said this under oath:.

one thing makes jehovah’s witnesses unique: they do not rely on strict rules or the authority of any particular leader, instead, they try to help adherents develop a bible-trained conscience so that each individual can personally and voluntarily make decisions guided by the bible.. i'm sorry but that is just not true.

RayoFlight2014

In a written statement I could say I'm a "virgin".

When that is read out to an audience, no-one can see i don't have a capital V .

Or that I have punctuation marks around my virginity.

The reader may not even comprehend what it means to be a lower case virgin.

So the inference would be that I haven't had sexual intercourse.

And later if push comes to shove and someone notices that in fact I'm not a Virgin, I have plausible deniability---- I never said I was a Virgin, check out my lower case v.

RayoFlight2014.

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False oath in Russia

by neat blue dog in

i'll be the first to say that the russian government is pretty terrible and overreaching in its', power but that's not what this is about.

in a recent hearing, a witness for the jws said this under oath:.

one thing makes jehovah’s witnesses unique: they do not rely on strict rules or the authority of any particular leader, instead, they try to help adherents develop a bible-trained conscience so that each individual can personally and voluntarily make decisions guided by the bible.. i'm sorry but that is just not true.

RayoFlight2014

neat blue dog,

These statements are typical of watchtower and Jehovah's witnesses.

They make cleverly worded ambiguous claims that infer a particular idea or clear expression, but ones they can later (with use of semantics) weasel out of.

For example: • they do not rely on strict (rules or authority) of any particular leader------ we have eight men who individually are not leaders but when they come together they form the fds.

• Geoffrey Jackson, in his reply to Angus Stewart at the ARC; "I (think) it would (seem) to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that God is using". ------but we'll say it anyway because we presume to be the only spokesperson that God is using.

• who is that "prophet" that god is using today?-------Jehovah's witnesses never said we are (Prophets) with a capital "P".

• 1975? Something, but We aren't saying.

Sometimes they get caught out with direct statements, but most times they won't commit and if you look closely at the twisted wording you'll find they have provided themselves with enough ambiguity to be able to wiggle (like the maggots they are) away from the statement and narrative they were responsible for inferring.

RayoFlight2014.

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The reactive mind vs the thoughtful mind...

by RayoFlight2014 in

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a thought came to me as i was posting on another topic.

my reactionary mind, responding to watchtower's cruel and hostile treatment of genuine truthseekers who can no longer reconcile with watchtower's narrative was, " may the collapse begin".. but then my thoughts turned to how that would affect my parents and siblings who are blissfully oblivious with their collective heads in the sand.

all their hopes and future joy has been postponed for decades awaiting paradise while fighting off the black dog that is depression.

RayoFlight2014

Thank you for your positive thoughts and well wishes Theonlyoneleft.

I wish you all the best also,

Warm Regards,

RayoFlight2014.

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Unique JW Phrases 101

by Solzhenitsyn in

what unique to jws phrases do you remember?

something fun for those of us taught to speak an entirely unique and pure language.

there have been posts in the past in this forum but perhaps some have new ones after having kept up with jehovah's chariot as the light gets brighter.

RayoFlight2014

Oh my, how the mind boggles.

Boggle Boggle.

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The reactive mind vs the thoughtful mind...

by RayoFlight2014 in

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friends

a thought came to me as i was posting on another topic.

my reactionary mind, responding to watchtower's cruel and hostile treatment of genuine truthseekers who can no longer reconcile with watchtower's narrative was, " may the collapse begin".. but then my thoughts turned to how that would affect my parents and siblings who are blissfully oblivious with their collective heads in the sand.

all their hopes and future joy has been postponed for decades awaiting paradise while fighting off the black dog that is depression.

RayoFlight2014

Hi Theonlyoneleft,

I hear ya.

My concern is that they will be rudely awakened by some event that is unmistakable and crudely rips the rug out from under them.

I'd like to be able to prepare them for that or at least have a readymade safety net to catch them as they fall.

I just have this uneasy feeling that the choice to remain oblivious may not be an option.

RayoFlight2014.

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The Watchtower stole from me and you too

by rickroll in

think of how much time and money the tower stole from any who were in the cult.

think of the vacations as a child you could have taken with your families the memories you could have made instead of sitting in a hot bs week of echo talks and propaganda.

they stole so much from us.

RayoFlight2014

Yes, that parasite cult consumed my neurons and stole away my ability to take education seriously.

But I'm done eating shit pie.

I enjoy being free from undue influence and coercion; I am free to choose whatever pie I desire, or I can choose to not have pie.

Maybe I'll go a healthy option?

Or not...

Num Num Num.

RayoFlight2014.

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The reactive mind vs the thoughtful mind...

by RayoFlight2014 in

jw
friends

a thought came to me as i was posting on another topic.

my reactionary mind, responding to watchtower's cruel and hostile treatment of genuine truthseekers who can no longer reconcile with watchtower's narrative was, " may the collapse begin".. but then my thoughts turned to how that would affect my parents and siblings who are blissfully oblivious with their collective heads in the sand.

all their hopes and future joy has been postponed for decades awaiting paradise while fighting off the black dog that is depression.

RayoFlight2014

Hi BluesBrother,

I gave your comment a like, although I didn't like that you had given up hope of reaching your loved ones, I found that sad, but I understand.

If we didn't care it wouldn't be so goddamn frustrating that they won't even talk about it or concede when faced with facts on the absurdity of the many teachings, flipflops and child rape scandals that watchtower is responsible for.

RayoFlight2014.

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The reactive mind vs the thoughtful mind...

by RayoFlight2014 in

jw
friends

a thought came to me as i was posting on another topic.

my reactionary mind, responding to watchtower's cruel and hostile treatment of genuine truthseekers who can no longer reconcile with watchtower's narrative was, " may the collapse begin".. but then my thoughts turned to how that would affect my parents and siblings who are blissfully oblivious with their collective heads in the sand.

all their hopes and future joy has been postponed for decades awaiting paradise while fighting off the black dog that is depression.

RayoFlight2014

Hi sir82,

Thank you for your input, but knowing my family, its Jehovah's witnesses, or bust. There will be no alternative religion for them.

I know once I couldn't reconcile with watchtower/ jw's I was repulsed by religion and they will be the same.

We, as a family weren't in it for the social aspect, we fully believed that Jehovah's organization was the only vehicle to our salvation, our tears would be wiped away and we would be reunited with our loved ones living in gods New Order.

This will be huge for them and others like them who are genuinely lovely deluded people and I can't help but worry for them.

RayoFlight2014.

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The reactive mind vs the thoughtful mind...

by RayoFlight2014 in

jw
friends

a thought came to me as i was posting on another topic.

my reactionary mind, responding to watchtower's cruel and hostile treatment of genuine truthseekers who can no longer reconcile with watchtower's narrative was, " may the collapse begin".. but then my thoughts turned to how that would affect my parents and siblings who are blissfully oblivious with their collective heads in the sand.

all their hopes and future joy has been postponed for decades awaiting paradise while fighting off the black dog that is depression.

RayoFlight2014

Hi Giordano,

I remember you mentioned "The true believer" in another post.

I'll have to read that book.

Thanks for the reminder.

What you said about perpetuating an illusion is so true...you and I can understand the concept... but attempting to articulate that to a person who doesn't entertain doubts that watchtower is anything but God's organisation, is bound to fail.

RayoFlight2014.